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Klaas Knot spoke with Takerou Minami from Nikkei about monetary policy and financial stability. The interview was published on April 30th 2024.
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De Nederlandsche Bank (DNB) recorded a negative result of almost €3.5 billion in 2023. The lion’s share – more than €2.3 billion – is absorbed by the provision for financial risks, while the remaining loss of over €1.1 billion is charged to capital and reserves. These figures are in line with previous expectations. We expect our buffers to be large enough to absorb future losses.
Published: 23 February 2024
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Our negative result for 2023 was caused by the European Central Bank’s interest rate hikes during that year to reduce inflation. As interest rates were raised, our interest expense went up, whereas interest income barely increased. Central banks’ interest rate hikes also lead to negative results elsewhere, both in the euro area and beyond. Yesterday, for example, the ECB announced a €7.9 billion negative result that – like at DNB – is largely absorbed through the use of a provision for financial risks. After the release of the provision, the ECB’s loss amounts to €1.3 billion. Earlier this year, Federal Reserve announced it had run a record operating loss of around $114 billion.
DNB is among the various central banks whose financial results are relatively poor. To mitigate the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, central banks in the Eurosystem have made massive purchases of sovereign bonds from their own countries to provide liquidity and depress interest rates, pursuing a policy known as quantitative easing. Thanks to the Dutch State's high credit rating, we purchased the bonds at relatively low rates. It should be noted that our losses are counterbalanced by low financing costs for the Dutch State. The amount the Dutch State has saved on interest charges on public debt thanks to the ECB’s quantitative easing amounts to around €28 billion This benefit exceeds the losses we expect to incur in 2023 and the coming years.
Based on our most recent year-end projections, we expect our buffers to remain positive (see the figure). Our current expectations are more favourable than the projections we released in December 2023. Previously, we announced in a letter to the Dutch Minister of Finance that we expected to face losses for the coming years due to higher interest rates. This is set to remain the case for the foreseeable future, although the market has started to price in falling interest rates. From 2029 onwards, however, we expect to return to profitability. We will then initially seek to restore our buffers in the first few years, before distributing dividends to the Dutch State. However, our expectations about restoring our buffers are subject to considerable uncertainty. This is because our cumulative losses are highly dependent on interest rate developments, and they could still exceed our capital and reserves, as previous projections have shown.
Figure 1 - Estimated development in our buffers
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Note: The figure shows the expected development of the level of our buffers at year-end following the appropriation of the result. These buffers consist of the provision for financial risks, capital and reserves. Following the release of more than €2.3 billion, the provision for financial risks was depleted as at 31 December 2023. The remaining losses are charged to capital and reserves.
Large losses, or indeed a temporary capital deficit, will not hamper our core task of safeguarding price stability. Given that a central bank cannot in principle default on liabilities denominated in its own currency, there is no discontinuity risk. That said, DNB must be sufficiently profitable in the long term to conduct monetary policy in an efficient and credible manner. Since the introduction of the euro in 1999, we have made a total profit of €22.6 billion. Of this amount, we paid out €16.2 billion in the form of dividends to the Dutch State, using the remaining €6.3 billion to strengthen our buffers. Those buffers stood at well over €11 billion at year-end 2021, of which more than €7 billion remains after two consecutive years of negative results.
In December 2023, the Minister of Finance, who represents the shareholder on behalf of the Dutch State, and DNB's President reached new agreements on our capital policy. This policy details how we create our buffers and allocate our profit or loss for the year to capital and reserves and the provision for financial risks, on the one hand, and to dividend distributions, on the other. The policy allows us to fully repair our buffers over time by retaining any future profits. This means recapitalisation by the Dutch State as the alternative to restoring buffers is currently not being considered. Once we have sufficiently restored our buffers by retaining profits, we will resume dividend distributions to the Dutch State.
Explanatory notes
The annual figures in this news item were taken from our draft 2023 financial statements. These are prepared in accordance with the models and accounting policies applying to the ECB and the European System of Central Banks (ESCB). The 2023 financial statements may still be adjusted, for instance due to events after the balance sheet date. In addition, there may be rounding differences. The figures in this news item are unaudited. We will publish our annual report on 14 March 2024.
Members of the press may contact Dorinde Meuzelaar at +31 651 96 3073 or d.c.meuzelaar@dnb.nl for more information.
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